AKC Dog Regsitry Correcting TLGDA Post

[gabe]

I wanted to post this so that if anyone wants to have this information. The TLGDA posted by Paul that the AKC does not allow dual registry. This is directly copied from the AKC Website:


My dog is registered with either a foreign kennel club or with a domestic registry not on the AKC list of acceptable registries. Can I register my dog with the AKC?
Answer:
There are several options available to you to see if your dog can be registered.

For a dog with papers from another domestic registry
AKC has a new program where we are researching pedigrees of dogs that do not have AKC paperwork to determine if the dog comes from AKC registrable stock.

In order to determine AKC registration eligibility, you will need to send AKC a copy of your dog’s pedigree, registration application and/or registration certificate from another registry. You can also submit documentation provided by the breeder such as a contract or bill of sale. The dog may qualify for registration if the pedigree shows no break in AKC lineage and the dogs in the pedigree originate from AKC registrable stock.

As you can see AKC cares only about the dog and the dog's pedigree. And yes if the dog qualifies it would be registered with AKC as well. I posted this because the Dual Registration post that was started over at the TLGDA said that they do not do that and that is simple not true based upon this information and the information that I got from the phone call.

[bluedog]

your learning Gabe..........

[joyates]

Gabe,
I am sorry that you are "in the middle" of all this!
I don't really understand alot of all this myself.
Your pup came from LGDR stock, and if Clifford had not chosen to change associations, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I understand he has his reasons, along with many others that have moved on, but am so sorry that it has brought even "more friction" between the TLGDA and the NLDA. I appreciate you being respectful in your postings, and I have asked alot of the same questions that you were asking. It really won't matter in the long run (I don't think). People don't care if the dogs are registered or not. Or at least we didn't when we set out to find our pup. We wanted a pup from tracking parents, and that was what we got. Your dog will be registered with the NLDA, and if you plan to breed in the future, you will not have any problems selling your pups. You have a fine pup, from good stock and that is what matters! Enjoy him!!

[bluedog]

I think you right Mrs Yates.........

[gabe]

I agree, and first and formost I am very happy with the NLDA and have conversations with Betty regularly. Most importantly the TLGDA is putting out information on the website that is simply not accurate. I have now had several conversations with AKC to verify. Did you know that AKC has no problem if a breeder chooses to register a litter within another registry? It is not an ethic violation that Paul and Marlo use to block dogs from being registered. And then on top of that it has no bearing on the Registry of the sire and dam and all of the puppies can be registered with both that registry and AKC so long as the lineage is still AKC stock. It is really more of a question of why are they so controlling?

[CNToo]

The thing is, Cliff did change registries. So, isn't it a good thing that we're having this conversation?

"if Clifford had not chosen to change a$$ociations, we wouldn't be having this conversation"

What would happen if someone other than Cliff had changed associations? Some how, I feel that this is an eye opener. Do you see?

Take away all the bashing with the 2 registries. Remove from your mind Cliff's experiences...

I said, I wouldn't get into this, since I have friends on that are members of the TLDGA...

But, "if Clifford had not chosen to change a$$ociations, we wouldn't be having this conversation..."

This may be an eye opener for me. I'd like to know what would have happened it if it would have been someone besides Cliff... just sayin'!

[bluedog]

Cristi, I think had it not been Clifford it would have just been swept under the rug. Countless folks have left the tlgda and no one notices, usually because said individual doesnt speak of it, doesnt have their own platform or just plain no longer cares.

Clifford is one of those folks who doesnt go quietly.......I admire that.

Clifford hasnt done anything wrong.......he can back up all that hes said, its the tlgda powers that are wrong not the tlgda members and not Clifford.

[Clifford]

No one hates all of this more than me. But, the lies and deceit, and pattern of actions by the folks in charge of the TLGDA (one of whom is Marlo, although she tries very hard to make sure those doing her bidding and dirty work keep the spotlight away from her) need to be exposed, so that more folks do not have to be subjected to them.

This is not a matter of me changing associations. I registered our grown dogs with the NLDR, and Marlo shut them out of "her" registry.
Lets call a spade a spade here.

Marlo has a financial interest involved, and cannot objectively say that she is doing what is best for the breed, unless she can convince folks that we are doing something wrong. I found that it was basically her way or the highway, so to speak, and decided to look for greener and friendlier pastures. I absolutely knew what she would do, and felt like the change would be the only way I could get out from under the policies which she demands TLGDA members adhere to, which I also believe are not in the best interest of the breed. But, it is her business to run, no matter how poorly I believe she does that.

The whole notion that eliminating people that have opposing views, either by blocking them from their ability to communicate with other association members, or by forcing them out, is a dead end path.
However, it has led to the founding of the NLDA, and a place where more open minded folks can gather and head in a new direction.

No more smoke and mirrors for me. And, I refuse to go away and shut up! If they expected that, someone badly misjudged the situation! But, considering the past performance, that is not a surprise.
My opinion is that there will be even more members of the TLGDA who get fed up with current policies and practices, and watching good people and great Lacys being banned, and unless changes are made the NLDA will continue to benefit from these folks changing associations.

And, to that I say, "Welcome!"

[camo]

Heck Clifford I thought you were forced out I did not know that you just up and changed registries . I need to pay more attention to whats being said .LOL Gabe you are a very fast learner and the kind of person they love to kick out . If you can think for yourself and can research information and find it to prove that they are wrong then you are locked out . If you have any opinion of your own or speak your mind then you are out . why do you think they never talk of anything of any importance on open forum. Its all fluff conversations. To stay there as one of the top group of power you must have your head so far up Marlo's a$$c that they can not see day light. Then the lack of day light and oxygen starts to cloud your judgment then you start to loose your own opinions and adopt all of hers . How can you post something as inaccurate about the AKC unless you got your Info from Marlo and did not take the time to research it for yourself ? As usual Marlo hung her own out to dry again do not blame Paul . There are a lot of us who have been in his shoes.

[gabe]

Don't feel sorry for Paul. He has made some statements that have been anything but appropriate for an officer of any organization.

[bluedog]

Hes a good follower........jack boots and all......