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Post by Clifford on Aug 11, 2010 19:24:54 GMT -6
Three more in Denham Springs, Louisiana...
Getting more info on them soon...
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Post by homerunbetty on Aug 21, 2010 0:06:15 GMT -6
Did you get what you need? I can help you out if you need me too.
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Post by Clifford on Aug 21, 2010 7:50:06 GMT -6
Trying to avoid the politics of who has which dog registered where at this point...
But, in the Lacy world it seems that is a formidable task...
There are far too many know it alls, making life complicated for folks who just want to enjoy the breed, and have a few pups!
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Post by homerunbetty on Aug 22, 2010 0:35:38 GMT -6
I didn't bring up any politics. Wasn't talking about who has which dog registered either.
Just trying to help since I know the guys you are referring to.
Not trying to be a know it all.
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Post by Clifford on Aug 22, 2010 5:37:41 GMT -6
Play offense, not defense... No one is picking on you!
I was making a comment about what I run into when I meet new folks, and they start discussing their dogs with me. One of the first questions they ask is " Are you ****, or *****?"
It's really sad that all owners of Lacys are caught up in this crap, which is totally divisive, and in my opinion could have been avoided!
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Post by rebeccaferrell on Aug 23, 2010 19:40:01 GMT -6
I prefer not to be "blue" or "red"..a deep purple perhaps
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Post by podunkheaven on Aug 23, 2010 21:14:51 GMT -6
Well I tend to make my own decision on associations. I like to associate with folks who have the best interest of the dogs at heart. Of course I suppose one could argue that is also personal perception...but that is how I choose my owners in most cases by the information they supply...but some breeders and buyers are liars too! So I breed with low co-efficients and bring generations that drop off back to the front after that. This gives my puppies and my buyers the best of both worlds IMO. My goals are a dog that works, structural soundness and a low probability of health issues. And in the end I want a dog that doesn't suffer from undue illness, and an owner that doesn't have outrageous vet bills due to my breeding program setting "type" as my first priority.
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Post by Stan on Aug 24, 2010 9:28:06 GMT -6
I did a lot of research prior to my purchase and have not allowed politics to affect my love for this breed. I agree with Clifford (as scary as that is) and wish the divisive nature could be overcome for the betterment of the breed and relationships.
As I have previously stated .
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Post by podunkheaven on Aug 24, 2010 16:20:45 GMT -6
Stan:
That will never happen because of the human element. As long as folks are closely line breeding/inbreeding recessive genes noone will be able to sit down at the round table. And I agree that is all of this is counter productive for the breed.
Hey thanks again for coming up with the name GRITS...that was very creative. Half my brain quit working when I turned 50.
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Post by Stan on Aug 24, 2010 18:18:52 GMT -6
How could a good ole southern boy not think about grits-either kind. I like the spin you put on the name and think it more than appropriate for a little fireplug.
I agree the breed should come first and we just get in the way and try to screw things up.
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Post by bkeepr on Aug 24, 2010 18:24:35 GMT -6
Yum, shrimp and cheese grits!
We love Lacys too! Can hardly wait for ELF next year, that was so much fun.
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Post by rebeccaferrell on Aug 24, 2010 18:45:55 GMT -6
Amen, Sister Kathy!!
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Post by Clifford on Aug 25, 2010 6:23:58 GMT -6
We really need to think of some other things to do with the dogs. I am convinced that some of the activities are more for the owners benefit than the dogs.
In my opinion, the coon in the cage needs to go away, because it teaches the dogs that you will provide the animal, and they will get to bark at it, rather than learning to hunt and tree.
The blood tracking courses are great for beginners, but probably worthless to experienced dogs, who are not smelling a real deer as they track.
Working cows is interesting, and actually involves the right elements.
Getting a bunch of owners together with their dogs is fun. But, we really need to decide if it's a workshop or a social gathering, and make the best use of our time!
Training the owners to train their dogs makes more sense than demonstrating that the dogs show some working ability, and avoids competition..
Anyone else want to weigh in on this?
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Post by rebeccaferrell on Aug 25, 2010 7:15:25 GMT -6
Heck I liked the whole thing..a lot of dogs had never seen a coon and didn't know what to think of it. IMO it helps to have at least smelled one and gotten turned on to the idea of tearing the critter up. That's what they are supposed to do with one at my house.
As far as the tracking goes. I don't have an opportunity to do this as some of you do. In fact I apprecaited Marlo setting up the tracks to UBT standard. Next time I'll spend more time on this. My dogs track a lot of live deer all over my property but not any that have been shot.
The cattle I enjoyed as well. Loved seeing my dogs work the cattle.
Like I've said before I'd love to see a thorough demonstration and proper use of e-collars. I would also like to see how GPS systems work.
There's nothing wrong with a social gathering. Even though each activity wasn't exactly the right fit for each dog I liked watching what other folks dogs were doing and how they did it.
I also like seeing, in person, dogs and figuring out which bloodlines they are from. Different looks and attitudes from different lines.
Could we squirrel hunt? Could we set a coon loose and see who finds it? Of course this wouldn't be so great for those dogs that are gun shy.
Quite frankly, I enjoyed the way we set it up this year and don't mind one bit if that is all we do again. They'll be new people coming who won't have had that experience and the rest of us can get reaquainted. We've all either kept in touch via FB, forums, phone or email since March so I know just meeting each other was beneficial.
So throw out some ideas. I can't think of anything different other than hog baying which I would love to have.
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Post by Stan on Aug 25, 2010 7:51:22 GMT -6
Clifford
I have to agree with Elvira but for maybe different reasons. I liked what we did last year for a couple of reasons. The thing (remaining nameless) in the cage gives those dogs that don't hunt those things an opportunity to for the experience. An owner can evaluate and improve their dogs performance with the exposure and encouragement.
As for the blood tracking, I am working with Bella on searching for primarily blood and not just a wounded deer. The reason being if I am tracking a wounded pig, rabbit, coyote, person (if need be) her using her nose to find blood is first. I understand there are situations where there may be limited to no blood and tracking the injured animal scent is important but to me this comes with experience just like wind scenting. Especially if UBT trails are set up again. Although some dogs may not be attuned to practice tracks others may be. This is also an opportunity to assist others in improving their and their dogs abilities. I know that 800 yard trail was tough this year.
Loved the cows and would have stayed in that pen all day working with Bella. Hopefully, Tracey will be able to make it and give us some professional pointers. Since I don't work with cows it was definitely beneficial.
Retrieving and basic obedience could be added as well as agility if we have time. Bringing everyone together was great and making new friends for us and our dogs was what it was about anyway--right?
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